The following information was delivered to us by an essence/spirit personality known as Elias, (no longer focused in physical dimensional realities) who delivers the information via an energy exchange with a woman named Mary Ennis, or what is more commonly known as ‘channeling’.
Empath vs Narcissist
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JF: So, you said that narcissists typically become angry or aggressive when interacting with someone expressing either empathy or the empathic sense to a significant extent. Why is that? It’s easy for me to see how the empath becomes overwhelmed or depleted in such interactions, but why does the narcissist become angry? Is it because the empath will often end up becoming evasive in such situations? You know, out of necessity? Especially if they’re ongoing, and therefore not give the narcissist what he or she is after?
ELIAS: I would say that that is a piece. Not a tremendous piece, because with a narcissist, not receiving what they want isn’t generally something that makes them angry; it simply loses their attention. Anything that isn’t giving them what they want or creating their payoff or isn’t playing the game with them or expressing in some manner that they understand, they simply don’t pay attention and would move in a different direction. Genuinely, they simply don’t pay attention to people that don’t interact with them in a manner that they understand, or in a manner that they can accept—they simply ignore them. But in relation to an individual that is empathic, the reason that that is bothersome to them and that they become angry with that, remember: what is anger?
JF: Perception of lack of choice.
ELIAS: Correct. Correct. Therefore, they become angry at the situation that they are presented with, with someone that is empathic and very sensitive, because this is a presentment to them of no choices.
JF: How so?
ELIAS: Because they don’t know how to express that. Therefore, that is a presentment of no choices for them, because they don’t understand how to express in that manner.
JF: So, in a way it’s… could we say that it would be a type of expression that they would love to be expressing but it really eludes them?
ELIAS: Not entirely, no. It isn’t necessarily something that they would love to be expressing or that they would even WANT to be expressing—they don’t understand it at all.
JF: Wow.
ELIAS: Therefore, it isn’t something that they covet—definitely not. It is foreign to them, and therefore it frustrates them because they don’t understand it. It creates a type of impatience with them, and I would say that they do incorporate a perception of weakness in that.
JF: Mm-hm. Mm-hm. Yeah, Mary and I had a long discussion about that before you and I started chatting, and that was one of the things we were throwing around.
ELIAS: I would say that they look at that expression in that light of weakness, in a very similar manner to how sometimes—not always—how sometimes thought-focused individuals look at people that express themselves very emotionally.
JF: Mm. Yeah. (Laughs) Yes.
ELIAS: They lose tolerance.
JF: Yes. Yes.
ELIAS: And in that, they don’t understand it. They don’t look at it as something that they want to experience--definitely not. They don’t look at it as something beneficial.
JF: Right. It looks painful.
ELIAS: Yes!
JF: Yeah.
ELIAS: And they look at it as something that should definitely be avoided, and that the person that DOES express in that manner should learn how to do it less.
JF: Can I ask you a personal question in relation to that? I relate to everything you say, you know, being thought-focused, and many times I’ve found myself assessing in similar ways as what you’re describing, but not entirely. And I think that the “not entirely” part is due to just being empathic and being able to pick up on that experience from a different angle, and maybe also using the conceptualization inner sense, where I can sort of conceive that type of experience even if I’m not experiencing it directly.
ELIAS: Correct. I would agree.
JF: You would agree. Okay. Right.
ELIAS: And I would also say that there are individuals that are thought-focused that may not necessarily be engaging their empathic sense much but that might express a considerable sensitivity. And in that, it aids them in incorporating more of an understanding of other individuals that express themselves more emotionally, and it gives them somewhat more tolerance with that. But a person that is expressing in a narcissistic direction, they don’t understand that, for the most part, at all.
JF: So, let me ask you, is it not possible for either empathy or the empathic sense to coexist with narcissistic tendencies? Might we not find all of these reunited in the same person?
ELIAS: Actually, it can. Actually, it can. Their ability to express that empathy is limited, but I would say that they definitely can develop that. They can learn how to express that. Now, I would say that it is difficult for most people that are expressing in a narcissistic capacity. It is very difficult for them to move in those directions because they have no patience for it.
JF: Mm-hm. You know, I’ve noticed people that I would say are expressing in narcissistic tendencies to a significant extent—and the reason I phrase it like this is because I don’t want to reduce someone to just that; no one is just a narcissist—but what I’ve noticed happening is that… Oh! I lost my train of thought. (Laughs) But I think I was going in a direction of saying something… that the manipulation that often accompanies narcissism I think can lead such people to almost kind of mimic empathy, but the motivation behind whatever sensitivity they might allow themselves to express at a certain time, the motivations behind that kind of distort it into something different than actual, genuine empathy.
ELIAS: I would agree.
JF: Okay.
ELIAS: I would say that what generally will influence an individual in that direction to be motivated to explore and develop their own expressions in sensitivity and empathy – which, let me express that they don’t generally move in the direction of genuine empathy much BUT that they can move in the direction of developing SYMPATHY – is significant for them. And generally speaking, what will spark that, or what will initiate that in most people that express narcissism, is if they begin to notice—which in itself is a challenge—but if they begin to notice that other people don’t like them or have issues with them or have significant problems with them-which, as I said, in itself is challenging because generally they DON’T notice that, because why would anyone have a problem with them?
JF: Yeah. (Laughs) The absence of empathy or the empathic sense, to a large extent in a person, doesn’t that make a psychopath out of them?
ELIAS: It can. It doesn’t automatically, but it can.
JF: What would be your definition of a psychopath?
ELIAS: This would be an individual that is creating a very different reality inside your reality. And in that, this type of person has created a reality in which they disassociate themselves from two very important factors. They disassociate themselves from duplicity—that doesn’t mean that they don’t include that in their reality at all, but they are disassociated from it—and they disassociate themselves from feeling. Therefore, they have disassociated themselves from emotional communications, and they have tremendous difficulty in experiencing feelings. Because the feelings are the signals that alert you to the emotional communications, but they have disassociated themselves from the emotional communications, and therefore they generally don’t feel much. This is also the reason that they are generally prone to extreme behaviors, because they don’t feel; therefore, they require extreme behaviors and experiences to generate those feeling signals.
Now, in that, just as most of you in your reality, they also want to follow the feelings. But I would say for these individuals even more so, because they only feel in extremes and because they have no association with emotional communications—for the only piece that they engage IS the feeling, and for them, for the most part, feelings being those signals but not having any emotional communication to be connected with, the feelings are fleeting. Therefore, they are inclined to chase them. #202102081
